I was plumbing the depths of the pit this weekend looking for badfic, and I found quite a gem. My
Spoilers ahead, probably. I officially recognize Manga Canon and to a lesser extent Anime Canon to the exclusion of Movie Canon.
Sanji can't seem to catch a break. Whether it's a het fic where the author openly admits she finds him pathetic, and treats him accordingly, or it's a yaoi fic wherein the author claims to like Sanji, but still manages to gut his personality.
OOC-Het!Sanji is a rather two dimensional character. He thinks of nothing except fawning over Nami in a patently pathetic manner, he has the mentality of a third grader, especially when it's time to have an argument with someone (usually Zoro), is surprisingly weak physically and will loose consciousness over very slight physical assaults, is surprisingly weak emotionally, and will bawl over a bad situation if push comes to shove.
OOC-Yaoi!Sanji is slightly less two dimensional, since he is usually one of the main players in the stories he appears in. He is almost without exception cast in the role of uke (ok, so I've never seen this exception, but I'll give it the benefit of the doubt), no matter whom he's paired with, even his ever ukelicious captain. He is generally meek, emotional, and physically weak. He generally has some sort of angst or trauma that must be resolved with hot sticky boysex (extra points for fangirl if angst or trauma has something to do with his left eye).
Neither of these iterations, of course bear anything but a passing resemblance to IC!Sanji.
Now to deal with these common abuses of his character:
Lovesick!Sanji
It is a popular to be of the opinion that Sanji's over-evident affection for Nami is "pathetic", it seems. He is often portrayed as following her around like a lovesick puppy, in the most dorkish of manners. I personally don't believe Sanji's one-frame crying spells worrying about Nami should be taken as deep character revelations anymore than Luffy crying over lack of food or shiny object. While catering to Nami-san is certainly a major pastime for Canon!Sanji, it is another big mistake to assume that this is merely some desperate outlet for an unchecked libido. No doubt Sanji loves the ladies, but there is a wellspring of canon evidence that he genuinely cares for Nami beyond wanting to get her in the sack.
Let us start with Little Garden. Sanji gives Nami his jacket when she has had her shirt burnt off by the destruction of Mr. 3's Candle Service Set. Later, when she falls ill, he at one point picks up her bed when the ship is rocking, even though she's most likely not lucid enough to even remember. When they are rushing her to the top of the Drum Mountains to see Doctorine, Sanji makes sure Luffy knows that "The most important thing is Nami! The second most important thing is Nami! The third most important..." , and Saves Luffy (whom is carrying the sick Nami on his back), from the avalanche at the expense of drastic injury to himself. There are other instances as well, during the Skypiea arc, for instance, especially in the scene on the airship towards the end.
Pushover!Sanji
I suppose I can grant that Sanji is not portrayed in canon as being as hardcore as Zoro, after all, he never sliced his side open to give someone a level playing field, but there is hardly any evidence that Sanji is as much of a wimp as he is typically portrayed as. Fangirls, I call for a moratorium on knocking Sanji out cold in your fic, unless he's been run over by a fricking mountain, or fried with umpteen zillion volts of electricity. Yes, fangirls, even if Zoro punches him. I don't think Zoro would have such an easy time defeating Sanji as is usually assumed. There's a distinctly non-negligible chance that Sanji would win, and at any rate it would be a close fight. And while it's true that Sanji doesn't have a bounty as of yet, the bounty thing involves a greater factor for opportunity than people seem to want to recognize. I'm confidant that by the time the Enias Lobby bit plays out, Sanji will have a bounty on his head. Even a cursory examination of Sanji in action during One Piece will tell you he is not to be trifled with. In summary for this section, Sanji kicks ass, and Zoro is not God.
Crybaby!Sanji
One of the things about One Piece is that everyone is allowed to cry, even the men. But none of the characters cash in this ability unless something drastic happens. Fic authors need to learn to tell the difference between Sanji crying from being snubbed for one frame, Nami crying about not getting money, or Luffy crying about not having meat or some shiny object, and Sanji crying when he thanks Zeff before setting off with the crew, Nami crying after being betrayed by Arlong, and Luffy crying after the fight with Usopp in Water seven. If you can't honestly judge the difference between those scenes, and what they mean for the character's personality, PLEASE stop writing fic in my fandom.
Uke!Sanji
What. The. Frick. This drives me crazy. First of all, I can't for the life of me figure out why we even need the Seme/Uke convention. Does it ever occur to the authors of these fics, that maybe it wouldn't be the same as het anyway, so why try to force it? Does it ever occur to them that even het shouldn't be set up so rigidly dom/sub all the time? Perhaps it's because Zoro is so ZOMG!Hardcore, that Sanji unfailingly gets the short end of the personality stick in Yaoi fics with the two of them. What I can't figure out is how he manages to land himself as the Uke even when paired with Luffy, whom is invariable portrayed in doujin as a twelve-year-old girl with a dick. Sanji is hardly feminine at all. He is not meek, he is not shy, and he will kick your ass. Just because he wears dressier(but still masculine) clothing, cooks, and unlike Zoro, he appears to bathe, does not seem to be enough reason to explain the testosterone-ectomy he gets in Yaoi Fic. Beyond that, I'm unsure of how to respond to this. Just watch the show/read the manga, and you'll see that Uke!Sanji doesn't make any appearances.
This has been a public service announcement from the Sanji Defense Association.
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October 9 2005, 20:44:36 UTC 6 years ago
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October 9 2005, 21:21:07 UTC 6 years ago
Heh, every RP I've been in, it's usually Usopp taking the abuse <.< >.>
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October 9 2005, 21:02:11 UTC 6 years ago
And Sanji definitely cares for Nami beyond the urge to get laid - but he cares for all women such! He's all about the chivalry. His insane loyalty to Robin in the present Water 7 is not about the sex, nor was his helping Vivi ("I'm on the side of the LADIES!") Or getting mad at Zoro for challenging Tashigi, or for that matter protecting Doctorine on Drum Island... And really he's deeply loyalty to all his nakama - he's just more, mmm, expressive about it with the female ones. ^_^
In conclusion - ff.net scares me! but they can never take canon!Sanji from us! *hugs her manga*
October 9 2005, 21:04:31 UTC 6 years ago
October 9 2005, 21:28:31 UTC 6 years ago
Unfortunately, very few people can do this...and it's usually the ones that can'r flooding ff.net with their crap. It makes me sad >.< I've been staying away from there recently myself.
October 10 2005, 00:08:48 UTC 6 years ago
October 10 2005, 00:23:54 UTC 6 years ago
Don't get me wrong, though...I do totally understand, and agree with everything you're saying - I just see that one piece of the puzzle a little differently. (I said one piece XD!)
October 10 2005, 00:33:56 UTC 6 years ago
And, yeah, it's true that it's not necessarily making anything up, just going unexplored places. Though given that Oda-sensei I believe has said none of the nakama are going to hook up... but don't get me wrong, it's not like I haven't written my share of OP pairings myself. and really all fic is a departure from canon anyway - obviously, since none of we fans are Odacchi himself! ^^
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October 9 2005, 21:52:41 UTC 6 years ago
Though do agree with ginnyseta that it is possible albeit difficult to write 'romance' for the OP fandom.
October 10 2005, 00:17:56 UTC 6 years ago
But, yes, I have no problem believing you've run into Sanji-bashing as well as poor writing...fangirls can be a worrisome species!
And the romance - yeah, some of that's the bias of a gen fangirl. Really I didn't mean that pairing fic can't be done, so much as given what OP is, you pretty much have to stray from canon to do it. A good writer can manage it, but...it ain't easy!
October 9 2005, 23:50:09 UTC 6 years ago
YOU ROCK MY WORLD! And so true! *Franky THUMBS UP!*
October 9 2005, 21:26:35 UTC 6 years ago
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For god's sake the man will feed a starving enemy and THEN try to kill him. O_o; How cool is that? And he and Zoro fight BACK TO BACK. Who else does Zoro do that with, eh? NO ONE.
And uke!Luffy is a 12-year-old girl with a dick. And that's just so wrong I can't ever wrap my brain around it. So I don't.
October 10 2005, 01:45:20 UTC 6 years ago
That said: subvert the dominant paradigm! Write good fiction that does not warp characters beyond recognition. Or ignores characters based on shallow and petty reasons such as not being pretty or obnoxiously powerful. Or acts like there are only two pairs of characters worth slashing using the same six or seven ideas.
(I am well aware that the correct response to the last bit is "then write something yourself," but this leads me to another thought...)
Tangent: Who else doesn't write (or show their fic to others) because they know that they could never do it right? Personally, I've written 24 drabbles so far, and only only one has ever been read by other people. And after an hour, I realized that it was a bigger piece of crap than I had previously thought. It is so hard when you're so hard on yourself. ;__; This also explains why I lurk just about everywhere I go -- I have nothing to share, and therefore see myself as excess baggage.
October 10 2005, 03:48:32 UTC 6 years ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! =XD
This is why I generally don't read fanfiction, as 99 per cent of it really is t3h suck and makes me weep. T_T
Anyoen who thinks Sanji is physically week can't have watched too much of the manga or watched much of the anime. even watching the 4Kids version shows you how much ass Sanji kicks.
Who doesn't love a man who can cook? ;9
October 10 2005, 06:51:45 UTC 6 years ago
I think all the characters must get some flak from one source or another, and they're all victims of being written OOC.
Usopp still gets the worst of it though. :P I'll go through pages of Usopp bashing and utter misunderstandings of his character before I'll see just one negative Sanji comment.
And I am STILL looking to see if there's any non-uke yaoi Usopp stuff out there. I don't think it exists. XD He's pretty much ignored for anything else.
October 11 2005, 23:01:59 UTC 6 years ago
Oh, and your icon is love.
October 11 2005, 22:57:51 UTC 6 years ago
And I totally agree on the Uke!Sanji. I think it's because everyone sees the tension between Sanji and Zoro in the manga and go "AH! TIS SEXUAL FRUSTRATION!". And having a Uke!Zoro sounds more odd than having Uke!Sanji, so our favorite blonde cook gets stuck on the bottom. I have nothing against yaoi (hell, I write yaoi!), but it'd be nice if some people realized characters aren't set ukes or semes or whatever. And I'm sure Oda-sensei never meant for any of his characters to be paired like that... even if it can becoming addicting... >.>
What surprises me more is people believe Sanji's a pushover. The guy will shove his foot up your ass in a heartbeat. This is the guy who kicks Luffy on a regular basis for eating all the food in the kitchen. How the hell can they think he's a pushover? *can't comprehend*
Meh, to each his own...
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June 22 2010, 13:55:55 UTC 1 year ago